Wheel and tire setup for the 1/4

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Discussion Starter · Sep 29, 2001

Looking to start getting together a setup for the drag strip. I plan on keeping the front wheels on the car and just swapping out the rears at the track.

I need some help wth the setup. I have heard from asking around that I should go with ET Streets on a 15" rim. Now my car is lowered with Eibach's and will soon have KYB shocks. So what size tire and wheel do I need to keep the TT rear calipers on and not need any fender or suspension work or adjusment? I just want to be able to bolt them right up in a few minutes.

Any suggestions on wheel brand? Would Bogarts be a good selection? What are some options here?

Thanks.

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Discussion Starter · #2 · Oct 1, 2001

C'mon guys, just a little bit of help here. I got this from another post. Apparently Larry at SP is usually using "26 x 10 ET drags on a 15" wheel, we use NA brakes in the rear." I think this is a start, but I definitely want to use ET streets and I do NOT want to have to use N/A brakes in the rear if possible.

Is there a similar sizing combination that will work with TT brakes in the rear, and ET streets on a 15" wheel? What would be some wheel options?

TT_6SPD_95

· #3 · Oct 1, 2001

I use 16" BBS wheels with 26x11.5 ET Streets. My best 60' is a 1.64 w/o nitrous. I am almost positive that 15" wheels will not clear the rear calipers.

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Oct 1, 2001

Thanks to both of you guys! I'm finally getting close to figuring this out.

King, Of those I would choose option 1 which is the 16" Bogarts.

So now my questions are where can I get the Bogarts at a good price? What size spacers do I need? What size ET streets should I select? and finally, Can I buy the tires premounted on the Bogarts anywhere?

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Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 1, 2001

TT_6SPD_95 said:
I use 16" BBS wheels with 26x11.5 ET Streets. My best 60' is a 1.64 w/o nitrous. I am almost positive that 15" wheels will not clear the rear calipers.

Well I think this answers one of my questions about size. So 26x11.5 ET streets will fit on my car with NO suspension or fender mods right?

Suprdave

· #6 · Oct 3, 2001

heh...

If your HARDCORE...Swap to N\A Supra Calipers on the Rear and get yourself some 15" Bogarts and 26x10.5 MT ET Drags...

Also, Goodyear makes an incredible Compound now...their slicks are the Shit...You might be able to fit upto a 28x10x15 Slick...It's a taller Slick, but Its a wrinkle wall...greater Contact Patch...That Tire will HOOOOOK....Goodyear has a Soft-Ass Compound...called their 'Competition' Slicks...Soft Compound 28x10x15...Yummy...

That shits if your Hardcore...

Suprdave

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Discussion Starter · #7 · Oct 3, 2001 (Edited)

Been looking around a little bit and there seem to be plenty of drag racing wheels that are less expensive avaiable in a variety of sizes and looks from many manufacturers like Weld, American, Centerline, US wheels, Eagle, etc. Will none of these fit on a Supra? What about these http://www.weldracing.com/ProStarXP.html A little price but they look pretty nice and the specs look about right.

I want to keep the rear calipers si I guess I need a 16x9 or 16x10 wheel.

3 important questions:

What is the Supra bolt pattern measurement? What backspacing should I select? What size spacers will I need?

parboy

· #8 · Oct 4, 2001

I thought it was a big nono to run slicks(bias ply) tires on the rear and radials on the fronts? It's supposed to cause serious control problems.

For answers to your wheel questions I would recommed John Purner at Complete Custom Wheel. His website is www.ccwheel.com and his email is [email protected] He is extrememly knowledgeable and builds his wheels to your specific needs. I got a set of his rear wheels to use with drag radials on my viper and they are great. Very strong and lightweight. Good luck!

racewheel

· #9 · Oct 6, 2001

16x10 rear, 16x5 front, 26x11.5x16 et street rear (hoosier is supposed to be bringing out a 28x10 soon) and a 26.5x3.75 front, fits over the brakes and will hook as hard as the rest of the car can handle.

DaveH

· #10 · Oct 6, 2001

Suprdave said:
heh...
If your HARDCORE...Swap to N\A Supra Calipers on the Rear and get yourself some 15" Bogarts and 26x10.5 MT ET Drags...
Also, Goodyear makes an incredible Compound now...their slicks are the Shit...You might be able to fit upto a 28x10x15 Slick...It's a taller Slick, but Its a wrinkle wall...greater Contact Patch...That Tire will HOOOOOK....Goodyear has a Soft-Ass Compound...called their 'Competition' Slicks...Soft Compound 28x10x15...Yummy...
That shits if your Hardcore...
Suprdave

Suprdave, are you sure the 28x10's will fit in the fenderwell? I'm currently running 26x10 ET Drags and I had to grind the fender lip for clearance. I'm banging the rev limiter through the traps, so I'd love to go to the 28 diameter if it will fit....

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Discussion Starter · #11 · Oct 14, 2001

I have a question, the people who are running et street are you using tubes? And if not what tire pressure are you runing. I'm have a hard time getting my car to be stable. I have a six speed and my mph is in the mid to high 130s but no good ets. I know my car should be in the mid to low 10s.

Thanks

Suprdave

· #12 · Oct 14, 2001

DaveH said:
Suprdave, are you sure the 28x10's will fit in the fenderwell? I'm currently running 26x10 ET Drags and I had to grind the fender lip for clearance. I'm banging the rev limiter through the traps, so I'd love to go to the 28 diameter if it will fit....

I don't know for sure...

Honestly, I bet youd hafta grind the fuck outta the fender lip and maybe take out the inner fender plastic stuff.

I said they were for the 'Hardcore'

Suprdave

silvr94r2

· #13 · Oct 15, 2001

I know you guys probably don't want to hear this but a 3rd gen RX7 rim with ET streets 26" work great on a supra. The rims are incredibly light! They clear the brakes with just a hairline of clearance. I have them on my car and my friend with a supra wanted to borrow them....needless to say we were suprised!

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Discussion Starter · #14 · Oct 15, 2001

What size are they and how much do used ones go for?

silvr94r2

· #15 · Oct 15, 2001

the rims are 16x8 and they are usually about $50 to $100 a piece.....maybe cheaper. You will be suprised at how light they are!

Supralative

· #16 · Oct 16, 2001

I'm going to use a set of 3rd Gen RX7 wheels and Nitto 245/50/16 Drag radials. Extremely light for a factory wheel. The earlier post wasn't lying about the hairline clearance on the caliper. I'm going to run spacers and longer studs when I swap for safety reason. Hopefully this will give some decent traction to at least pull a 1.7 60' in my 6spd. I'm going to buy ET streets as soon as the drag radials wear out! Good luck.

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Discussion Starter · #17 · Oct 16, 2001 (Edited)

Just talked to John @ CCwheel and he did say that wrinkle wall tires might cause control problems with radials in the front. He strongly advises against ET streets/full slicks in the back and radials in the front.

So here are the list of dilemmas right now. I do not have nor do i want to spend the $1500 or so it's gonna take to do this right with 16x10 in the back skinnies in the front. Those Rx-7 rims are too small IMHO to fit anything with any size on them properly. Nobody makes a 16" drag radial in a 315 and I'm not buying a set of rims just to put a 275 DR on there. So my options now are as follows:

1. Go against the safety advice of John and just put ET streets on 16"s back there. Probably not the best idea from what I'm hearing.

2. Buy some 17" wheels and stick a 315 BFG drag radial back there. Ge fenders "massaged". Looking like the best answer to keep this under $1000. However, John @ ccwheel says you really need a 17X11 for a proper fit and this really limits wheel selection.

3. Buy the whole setup with skinnies and slicks. Actually will come out to over $1500 with tires.

So assuming I decide to choose option 2, are there any vendors that make 17X11 wheels for under $300??? If not I think I'll just go ahead and have John make me some since I think his will cost about $400 or so.

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Discussion Starter · #18 · Oct 19, 2001

or,

2-16x8 rx7 rims---------$180
2-ET streets 26x10.5x16(tight but ok)----$350
2-"supra spare" rims(only haveto buy 1 since u have 1)--$20
2-skinnies slicks for the fronts--$200

total--$750

1.4x to 1.6x ==60' times-----------------PRICELESS

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Discussion Starter · #19 · Oct 19, 2001

BLK-SP64 said:
or,

2-16x8 rx7 rims---------$180
2-ET streets 26x10.5x16(tight but ok)----$350
2-"supra spare" rims(only haveto buy 1 since u have 1)--$20
2-skinnies slicks for the fronts--$200

total--$750

1.4x to 1.6x ==60' times-----------------PRICELESS

I really really like this brake-down minus one thing. IMHO a 16x8 wheel is too small to run safely with a 26X10.5 ET street. I called Mickey Thompson and Bogart to verify and got the same answer, ~"Doable, but NOT the safest way to go down the track." That's probably good enough for some, but not for me. If I set this thing up fro drag racing, I defintiely want the optimum size wheel on there for safety and stability. That being said, the Bogarts can be had for about $500. Thta's about $300 more than the other wheels and puts the total at about $1000. BTW, optimum size wheel for a 26x10.5 is a 16x9.

That's the way I'm going.

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· #20 · Oct 22, 2001

I know multiple people with the 26x11.5x16 tires on a stock f-body 16x8 wheel. The tires dont stick out to bad. My old boss use to drive around town all the time with the same with the 26x11.5" ET streets all the time with no problems. He has also run a couple of mid 11 sec passes with them as well.

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