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For many, the A90 Supra is not the successor to the A80 that fans have been waiting for. With a platform and motor that’s shared with the new BMW Z4, its difficult not to look at the Supra and see a BMW parts bin car. To Toyota’s credit they have gone on record to say that these two cars have been tuned much differently but is this the kind of treatment that such a legacy product deserves?

The response to the A90 would have been much different if Toyota had simply outsourced the powerplant, but the parts sharing does not stop there. The suspension, wheel hub and bearing package, steering column and HVAC system all seem to be pulled directly from BMW. The body may be unique to the Supra, but even the engine mount support brackets that are welded to the frame rails are shared from the X3 and X4.

With regards to the specs on the A90, these are somewhat underwhelming too. After more than a decade, power output has only increased by 15 horsepower and the 0-60 mph time has only improved by .9 seconds. Though the slightly smaller and lighter chassis may improve overall handling and braking, this isn’t the supercar rival that the original Supra was intended to be.

The lack of a manual transmission is another odd exclusion, with Toyota claiming that one could be developed if there is enough consumer demand. Yes, manual gearboxes have been slowly phasing out for years now, but this should have been a given on what should be a driver-focused car.

Inside the cabin is where similarities with the Z4 are most evident. Everything including the switchgear is straight out of a BMW. That’s not to say they don’t make a nice interior, but Toyota should have done a lot more to distinguish the two.

With rumors of a lightweight, track-focused model in the pipeline, there could be further changes to the platform that make it less of a mixed breed. We only hope that future revisions of the A90, place a greater emphasis on its Japanese heritage.
 

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We hate the new A90 because it is a BMW...
 

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Because it's a BMW not a TOYOTA. It's really that simple. SMDH....An ADMIN with 2 posts. You are not gonna change our minds so stop trying.

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Simple.

- The thing looks like shit
- Underpowered
- BMW all around down to the interior.
- Still looks like shit in GT form
 

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If toyota sold these cars as an option as rollers I might consider it. If this car had a toyota designed and sourced drivetrain even if it was a v6 instead of an inline six we could have worked past that even. Then we would just have to overcome the exterior which is the skim milk version of that ft1 cream.
This car is 5 letters away from not even being on this forum.
 

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In for awesome comments.

I don't particularly hate the way it looks exterior wise, but the B58 and the interior are flaming, hot, garbage.

Personally I think the car is going to sell well, but not to any of us.

Toyota made clear that they couldn't give a fuck less about the lineage of the Supra.

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Maybe, maybe not. I suspect the vast majority of buyers will not be "car guys/girls" but posers/wannabes.
Exactly. They think they have the latest and greatest with Hope's of it being better then the MKIV. I feel sorry for all future BMW Supra owners that have to deal with every public encounter being followed by a MKIV statement.
 

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Exactly. They think they have the latest and greatest with Hope's of it being better then the MKIV. I feel sorry for all future BMW Supra owners that have to deal with every public encounter being followed by a MKIV statement.
+1. This comes to mind lol

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Exactly. They think they have the latest and greatest with Hope's of it being better then the MKIV. I feel sorry for all future BMW Supra owners that have to deal with every public encounter being followed by a MKIV statement.
Now even MKIII guys have something they can make fun about !!!

MKV owner: Hey, you like my NEW Supra ?!?
MKIII owner: What new Supra? I see a POS BMW Z4!!!:gtfo:
 

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/\We make fun of the people who pay $30K plus for 23 year old MK4's too.
 

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Now even MKIII guys have something they can make fun about !!!

MKV owner: Hey, you like my NEW Supra ?!?
MKIII owner: What new Supra? I see a POS BMW Z4!!!:gtfo:
Actually, owners of the first four generations of the Supra can take pride in the Toyotaness of their cars, something MKV owners will never be able to do.


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I know I am definitely in the minority, but my favorite car brands are Lexus/Toyota and BMW.

I am happy the interior is BMW. We were recently looking at a 2015 LX570 for my wife and geez, Lexus needs to refresh their interiors to get them in line with the competition.

I have owned several Yotas: 4Runner, LX450, Camry, LX470 and several BMWs: M5, 650i, 335i and a X5.

I have not had major problems with any of them.

There are definitely styling items I wished were changed on Supra, but I can live with it.

In regards to 300.00 oil changes, that is a little of an exaggeration. My m5 took 10qts with filter and plug gasket, it can be had for about 125.00 (parts). We are enthusiasts, so I am assuming must of us on the forum do our own work.

Also, you don’t need to change it every 3k, so the price is pretty negligible when compared to 30.00 oil changes every 3k.

The other nice thing with the b58 is that it is easily tunable and with the z4 pushing out 385hp, we know that we can safely increase the power in the Supra without issue.

My hope is that is it the best from both worlds: Toyota reliability and BMW driving experience.

(I realize it could end up being the worst of both worlds, only time will tell).

Again, I realize I am in the minority, but the cool thing is we can all spend our money how we choose.

Quick question, not trying to start an argument, as everyone on this thread seems to hate the Supra, so you guys can easily attack and outnumber me, but why are there so many people on the Supra threads if you hate them?

I hate mustangs, I am never on their forums saying how much they suck....I just stay away from forums on topics that I don’t like.....??

(I am putting on my flame suit now ;)
 
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