I should've stated my preference was based on looks and styling of both cars. As far as power goes, they are both neck and neck, the 400Z having a slight edge. One of the most obvious features the 400Z has is the manual option... which the MKV will fall very short on with buyers. I've driven the MKV and it is impressive, so I'll have to report back when the new Z comes out and I've test driven that too.Why dont you elaborate...I find myself saying the exact opposite.
What?? You don't have to be a brand loyalist to know it is in fact because it's a Toyota that they are wonderful.The older supras are wonderful cars, because the are wonderful cars, not because Toyota made them.
You're comparing a 1969 to a 2015 Hellcat, that's 45 years difference spanning multiple advancements from carbs to fuel injection, fully analog to OBD2/CANbus system, multiple gas crises, adoption of multiple catalytic converters, modern tires, etc, etc. That's an apples to oranges comparison to the 20 year difference between the last MK4 Supra and the first MKV.And, sorry, but the new Supra is a thoroughly modern automobile (suspension, electronics, chassis rigidity, safety features, etc, etc). I had two C3 vettes, a 68-327 and a 72-454. Would I want to put either up against even an early C4? How about my early 80’s 280zx against a modern Z car? Or, my 1969 Plymouth Road Runner against a Dodge Charger Hellcat? The obvious answer is NO Way! A stock 90’s Supra up against a stock 2020, or better yet, stock 2021? Really? I love that you love your cars, I loved my 68/327 but I know technology has moved on. Give me a C8 any day if I’m going to the track. If we’re going to an antique car show? Clearly my 68 would win. Love your cars for what they are and let me love mine for what it is. Viva-la-difference!!!.
What seems to be sad is that you didnt go through the forums to see HUNDREDS of Supras that showed that they were able to make over 800rwhp on the stock engine, and Im sure you possibly know of TO4R.comIf you believe only Toyota made “overbuilt engines” I just don’t know what to say to that except Sad.
again the 2jzgte can make 800hp on stock internals and more so with boltons and a tune again read around.Read articles and posts suggesting A91 good for 600 hp before really need to change anything major, and that it can handle 700-800 hp. Toyota expected the car to be modded and The B58 is one great engine.
how about the Dodge Viper RT10 and the C4Zr1 both of which the Supra beat out or equaled in 1993/94 in handling, braking, acceleration and 1/4 timeAs for who will be doing what in 20-30 years, don’t know and neither do you.
My comparison C3 to C4 is valid and those two cars were closer together than MKIV to MKV.
Comparing a MKIV to a Corolla? Maybe you know something I don’t about the MKIV that makes that a reasonable comparison?
You do not know about the Supra though a bit about the Supra but not about the Supra. And its sad that you own an amazing machine as well as other amazing machines (sans the Zupra) and chose comfort and luxury in the Zupra over getting an ACTUAL Supra. Caroll Shelby and Hiromo Naruse hang their heads in shame at you.Yup I’m an old Man, I know cars, I’m modding mine and sorry, I’d rather start where this car is than with a car that’s 2 decades plus out of date. Your entitled to your opinions and preferences but the OLD Man crack smacks of a little insecurity. To quote the Bard - Methinks thou doth protest to much.