from what i under stand about moter swaps weter jdm or A spec that they will all pass smog nomater what car they are in it just wont pass the visual test unless you go to the right people that is

 

from what i under stand about moter swaps weter jdm or A spec that they will all pass smog nomater what car they are in it just wont pass the visual test unless you go to the right people that is

JDM wont pass, because the 2jz-gte's dont have that EGR system (smog stuff) on the back of the intake, thats why when people get EGR plates they block EGR and i dont remember the benefit but i believe you get cooler temperatures. But yea JDM no EGR no pass....


as for putting GTE into MK3 it will pass if you have all the cats and MK4 ECU. If one guy doesnt pass you visually then go to another guy, but the smog guys dont know much about supras.

 

yes it will pass provided everything is hooked up... go to a referee

 

thats weird. i have a friend that has a 1j swap and today we were talking about him being able to smog it and i told him it wouldn't pass because it doen't have EGR or a evap system. then we the 2j swap came to mind i i was wondering if that would pass. i thought you could swap a newer motor into an older car and be legal. is this right? considering you have all the smog stuff hooked up of course.

like you said, honda people are doing this now. this is where i found out about the newer motor/older car thing.

 

yes... newer motor into older car

 

so if its legal, why aren't more people doing it? sounds like that would be the way to go. :dunno:

 

because there is a misconseption that gettin a car to pass referee is hard. Its a challenge, but if its a clean legal swap. Legally they cant deny you.

~scott

 

so if its legal, why aren't more people doing it? sounds like that would be the way to go. :dunno:

Because we keep on spreading rumors that it's a hard swap so that fewer mk3 people will do it.

 

Its legal if you go through the ref and its a US car. Or get a JDM and put an EGR from a US model on it. From what I hear/read putting a 2JZ in is a PITA.

 

ya it might be a pita but you only have to do it once and when your done you know your gonna like it.

 

ya it might be a pita but you only have to do it once and when your done you know your gonna like it.

yeah thats one of the reason i wanna put a 2j on mine. not only will it pass smog(with all stuff hook up) but i dont have to remove the mods every smog time.

why since ill prolly leave it stock besides an intake and exhaust system lol...

i mean it makes alot of power already. right.

 

as for smog's concern, there's 2 ways, one is called "engine replacement". you can place a newer engine into a older year model one, but it has to be the same generation (mk4=93-98, you can put '98 2JZ with vvti into a older '94 which is suppose to have older 2JZ without vvti) If you input mk4 engine into a mk3 or a JDM engine into a US car, that's called "engine swap" and it's illegal. with the exception that you need to bring the car to a referee, he'll inspect the engine, verify all emission devices that's on it and he'll give you a bar sticker lable to place on your driver side door, so from now on whenever you need to do smog, just tell the smog tech you got the bar# label. he'll use the label to get information about the engine size, and emission devices instead of using the original emission label under the hood to smog you car.

 

as for smog's concern, there's 2 ways, one is called "engine replacement". you can place a newer engine into a older year model one, but it has to be the same generation (mk4=93-98, you can put '98 2JZ with vvti into a older '94 which is suppose to have older 2JZ without vvti) If you input mk4 engine into a mk3 or a JDM engine into a US car, that's called "engine sway" and it's illegal. with the exception that you need to bring the car to a referee, he'll inspect the engine, verify all emission deives that's on it and he'll give you a bar sticker lable to place on your driver side door, so from now on whenever you need to do smog, just tell the smog tech you got the bar# label. he'll use the label to get information about the engine size, emission devices instead of using the original emission label under the hood to smog you car.

Does that mean its possible to run a JDM 2jzgte in a mkiv in cali if i went to a referee and got it labelled???

 

yes, that is correct. make sure that engine has all the emission devices that came from factory like EGR for example. go to the referee for inspection. (you'll need to pay the inspection fee) once the tech approve it. he'll give you a bar label with serial# and your engine informations for future smog check use.

 

i thought the JDM doesnt have an EGR? :dunno:

 

i sawped a jdm 7m-gte and passed smog fine i was only a few points above avrage

 

I said for example... If that engine have egr leave it alone don't remove it.
if not there's nothing you can do about it, just have it test as it is.

of course you can take your chance with the smog tech with JDM engine,
when he check the manual and find out you are "suppose" to have a egr, yet your JDM engine don't have one. he'll fail you car for tampering with emission device. "missing egr system" for example.

 

Has anyone in Cali passed smog with a JDM 2jzgte in their car???

 

2J is a bit more costly compared to 1j in a mk3... but not by much.

the 2j into a mk3 is looked at by most mk3 owners immaturely, as being "difficult, costly, and fitment issues" after going through the swap in my 3, difficult it is not, costly not too much more then a 1j swap, and fitment issues.... someone pass me a kleenex box for some of these crybabies!

a jdm 2j motor will not pass cause of stated commetns above.

 

yes, JDM model engines will not pass smog here. cuz of the EGR system. you will need the US wiring, EGR system and ECU and alot more..., maybe US sensors too. with that cost, just go get a US engine. good luck.

 

so if its legal, why aren't more people doing it? sounds like that would be the way to go. :dunno:

You can swap in any motor that is newer than the current year of your car. The motor has the be from a motor which is found in cars in the US. A 1jz was never released in the US therefore it will not pass the ref inspection.

 

this thread reminds me of how to get a skyline legal and hondas trying to pass with a b16, people research and get your facts straight.

 

yes, that is correct. make sure that engine has all the emission devices that came from factory like EGR for example. go to the referee for inspection. (you'll need to pay the inspection fee) once the tech approve it. he'll give you a bar label with serial# and your engine informations for future smog check use.

JDM engine swaps are illegal. JDM engines were not available in domestic models. They lack the correct smog equipment, ecu and serial numbering.

The ref will know that you are trying to pass an illegal engine and then you'll be fucked.

You can swap any newer domestically available engine into any older car as long as you retain the engine year correct smog equipment and don't swap across fuel lines (you can't swap gas to diesel).

 

JDM engine swaps are illegal. JDM engines were not available in domestic models. They lack the correct smog equipment, ecu and serial numbering.

The ref will know that you are trying to pass an illegal engine and then you'll be fucked.

You can swap any newer domestically available engine into any older car as long as you retain the engine year correct smog equipment and don't swap across fuel lines (you can't swap gas to diesel).

Interesting, because Honda guy's pass JDM motors at the referee every single day......

 

Interesting, because Honda guy's pass JDM motors at the referee every single day......

yap that's true but Most honda motor are avilable here in US too. they just dont
want US motor cuz of miles and some jdm motor are better made. So all they have to do is just swap all there smog stuff in to there jdm motor.


Most atarco motors are JDM motor. thats y they sell them with no ECu and LOngblock only (most of the time).

NEW Motor + OLD CAr + Smog Stuff = LEgal Smog
OLD Motor + NEw car + Smog = No Smog