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Wiring issue Lights flashing on dash

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#1 ·
Hey guys,
Recently while i was driving my voltage started going down and the car died right before my driveway, so i pushed it up and tested it, bad alternator. So while the alternator was bad, the brake and battery light came on while I was driving.

Replaced the alternator and it was smooth sailing, I was being a jackass with some friends and we were doing burnouts holding it in L or 1st gear on the auto shifter, and once it got up to rev limiter and bounced, the brake and battery light bounced with it, i thought it was odd but then when we did another burnout and it peaked in its high rpms the lights came on but didn't come off.

Then, as we were driving home the battery came disconnected, loose terminal cause I forgot to tighten it while working on alternator. Threw it back on and went home, as I came to a dead stop though, so did the engine, the motor was running fine but if I was at a complete dead stop, it would try to kill itself off. So then i started it back on and gave it some rpms for like 15-30 seconds then it stayed running and now it stays running.

Despite having the car turned off and back on like 13 times now with the light staying on im guessing I gotta fix something.

Terminals are tight, I've been looking for a bad ground or power lead but this is such a weird issue, why only the battery light and the ebrake light?

Now, my cruise control doesnt work at all, I dont know if those are somehow hooked up or is there a specific cruise control power lead i unplugged?

I might have a 6 hour road trip today and i'd really like cruise to work and not have lights on my dash.

Has anyone had this issue before? What would you guys recommend starting at?
 
#4 ·
I meant breaking out a multimeter and measuring the output. It would also be worthwhile to test continuity across the circuits. While the plugs might be secure, something else may have happened and you'll need to do some testing to find it. This will be good practice at reading wiring diagrams and diagnostics, a necessary skill if you're going to have an old car.

Did you replace the belt with the alternator? Any cracking or glazing on the belt? Ribs in good shape?
 
#5 ·
I would also verify connections on the back of the alternator and that the pins are seated fully in the housing on the back. It can be a little tough to insert all the way depending on age and condition. Wires can sometimes fray as well, so check those out.
 
#6 ·
When the alternator goes bad on these and many other Japanese cars of the period you will see multiple warning lights come on because they are dependent on the brush circuit. If everything turns out to be tight now and you are still having problems you might need to start checking fuses and fusible links. Loose battery connections could cause a fuse to burn out. I would focus on the fuses under the hood mainly.
 
#8 · (Edited)
If the rear plug to the replacement alternator has all 3 wires at plug attached to the built in voltage regulator at rear of alt. and you're still getting the 3 lights lit I circled below, than you have a bad alternator.
You should read at least 1 volt above the engine off base battery voltage with engine running. So example, if battery is reading 12.6 volts with engine off you should get at least 13.6 volts once you start the engine. You want to see 13.5-14.5 volts if alternator is good. Your charging voltage will depend on the battery's state of charge and the loads on the electrical system, lights, blower, etc.
You should always rebuild your own. It's 90% the brushes are worn down and can no longer contact the slip rings. Replacing the brush holder and or the regulator is super easy as they are attached with phillips screws under the rear cover. Today's rebuilts are JUNK IMO.


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#9 ·
You should always rebuild your own. It's 90% the brushes are worn down and can no longer contact the slip rings. Replacing the brush holder and or the regulator is super easy as they are attached with phillips screws under the rear cover. Today's rebuilts are JUNK IMO.
When multiple lights started to come on in my dash, it was my alternator going bad. Turns out the brushes were worn; it is indeed an easy and cheap project to replace the brushes.
 
#10 ·
so my lights are out light is on, but its just on cause of a license plate, im almost positive my rear lights actually work. The alternator is outputting around 13.6-13.8v I don't think its a bad alt though cause these lights were on with the old one, with the new one they went off, but when it hit its rpm limiter they came back on permanantly
 
#11 ·
so my lights are out light is on, but its just on cause of a license plate, im almost positive my rear lights actually work. The alternator is outputting around 13.6-13.8v I don't think its a bad alt though cause these lights were on with the old one, with the new one they went off, but when it hit its rpm limiter they came back on permanantly
The "Rear Lights" only checks the tail and stop filaments. The 2 license plate bulbs are not part of the load check thru the rear light failure module box
 
#14 · (Edited)
I mistakenly mentioned the rear side markers which are not included. If your rear lights are on than you have either a tail or stop filament bad on one of the 4 bulbs. It's 4 dual filament 1157 bulbs, so 4 tail filaments and 4 brighter stop filaments. One filament of the 8 might be bad or you might have a bad/corroded bulb socket contact or a socket ground.

EDIT: You might need to clean out the contacts in the 4 sockets and the solder contacts on the bulbs along with the bulb base sides with a brass brush and than apply a light coat of bulb grease around base sides and bottom 2 contact points of the bulbs before reinstalling.

 
#23 ·
Only if the failure box is not modified for LEDs or bypassed I believe.
 
#25 ·
Yep just striaght up getting the bulb failure electronics out of the way will definitely help. One thing I did notice with LEDs or reduced resistance through the bulbs was noise when the turn signal flasher was on that affected the cruise control module and kept causing the car to slow down. The halogen bulbs provide enough resistance to filter this noise out and prevent it from affecting the module. All of my brake lights are halogen now to avoid all these issues. LED conversions are way simpler on older cars that just have dumb manual switches and no electronics that monitor the lighting circuit. New cars are the worst to convert especially GMs. Nice dash by the way.